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	<description>We're not in Christendom anymore, Toto!</description>
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		<title>By: churchless</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>churchless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure what you&#039;re talking about, Thomas. Please explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what you&#8217;re talking about, Thomas. Please explain.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s happened to my comments? Is this the organised church of the churchless or will you listen to my comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s happened to my comments? Is this the organised church of the churchless or will you listen to my comments?</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been out for 20 years. Barely any &quot;fellowship&quot; at all..if any. What happened? I learned to use my &quot;spiritial&quot; muscles. I learned who, what, and why Jesus did what he did..said what he said and it isn&#039;t about me..me..me. He gave Simon Barjona the keys to the Kingdom..and he gave them to you and me as well. We handed them to someone else to &quot;do&quot; the Kingdom for us..for me..never again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been out for 20 years. Barely any &#8220;fellowship&#8221; at all..if any. What happened? I learned to use my &#8220;spiritial&#8221; muscles. I learned who, what, and why Jesus did what he did..said what he said and it isn&#8217;t about me..me..me. He gave Simon Barjona the keys to the Kingdom..and he gave them to you and me as well. We handed them to someone else to &#8220;do&#8221; the Kingdom for us..for me..never again.</p>
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		<title>By: the church geek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog Comment Day</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>the church geek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog Comment Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jbonewa</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>jbonewa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog via john smulo&#039;s blog comment post...as &#039;thechurchgeek&#039; I&#039;m thinking I need to take seriously your thoughts on this blog so I&#039;ll be reading more.  I often try to tell/remind my congregation that tons of people are thinking less and less about being part of the institutional church.  Some don&#039;t believe it, others I suppose don&#039;t want to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog via john smulo&#8217;s blog comment post&#8230;as &#8216;thechurchgeek&#8217; I&#8217;m thinking I need to take seriously your thoughts on this blog so I&#8217;ll be reading more.  I often try to tell/remind my congregation that tons of people are thinking less and less about being part of the institutional church.  Some don&#8217;t believe it, others I suppose don&#8217;t want to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smulo</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog through Mike above.

Great thoughts. I can strongly relate to what you say here and in your about page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog through Mike above.</p>
<p>Great thoughts. I can strongly relate to what you say here and in your about page.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great thoughts.  It seems that the harder we push, the more we are just pushing away.   I am going to ponder this post very much over the next few days because I think that you have captured something here that I have simply overlooked.   In theory, I have said that I accept all views but in reality, when facing an opposing view, my first instinct is to debate (read as argue) instead of discuss.

Thanks for the eye opener.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great thoughts.  It seems that the harder we push, the more we are just pushing away.   I am going to ponder this post very much over the next few days because I think that you have captured something here that I have simply overlooked.   In theory, I have said that I accept all views but in reality, when facing an opposing view, my first instinct is to debate (read as argue) instead of discuss.</p>
<p>Thanks for the eye opener.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts exactly.  Our tradition is the ground we walk on. It&#039;s hard to let go for fears of falling.

Not to mix metaphors, but when your wandering in the wilderness of our modern (or post-modern, liberal or post-liberal or narrative or emergent or neo-orthodox or whatever) faith, It would be nice to have a companion, someone to double check the map and make sure we&#039;re heading in the right direction.

I think the internet has helped quite a few people find a signpost along the way, but I worry that the connections are so fleeting and unreal that we are missing the essential nature of true, human, interaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts exactly.  Our tradition is the ground we walk on. It&#8217;s hard to let go for fears of falling.</p>
<p>Not to mix metaphors, but when your wandering in the wilderness of our modern (or post-modern, liberal or post-liberal or narrative or emergent or neo-orthodox or whatever) faith, It would be nice to have a companion, someone to double check the map and make sure we&#8217;re heading in the right direction.</p>
<p>I think the internet has helped quite a few people find a signpost along the way, but I worry that the connections are so fleeting and unreal that we are missing the essential nature of true, human, interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Getting There:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks for leaving your thoughts! I&#039;ve wrestled with the same decision regarding my wife, but I think she&#039;s coming around on her own time.

&lt;b&gt;Derek:&lt;/b&gt; Funny you should mention Southern Baptists, because I was born and raised in those circles. I even attended an SBC seminary, so I may have been one of those fundamentalists you&#039;re talking about. With that sort of background, I have found it extremely difficult to break free (old rituals die hard) and even begin to think in a new direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Getting There:</b> Thanks for leaving your thoughts! I&#8217;ve wrestled with the same decision regarding my wife, but I think she&#8217;s coming around on her own time.</p>
<p><b>Derek:</b> Funny you should mention Southern Baptists, because I was born and raised in those circles. I even attended an SBC seminary, so I may have been one of those fundamentalists you&#8217;re talking about. With that sort of background, I have found it extremely difficult to break free (old rituals die hard) and even begin to think in a new direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2008/09/do-we-have-realistic-expectations-for-others/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree!

I first started the revolutionary swing in my personal theology a few years back at a deep-south bible college. turns out, thats not a good place to talk about the a non-fundamental view of things, let alone the kind of theologies I was discovering. (imagine engaging a room full of southern baptists about the &quot;Death of the Theistic God&quot;) It stung deeply that none of my friends would join me on my quest and that disillusionment left me cold to the faith for a few years. luckily I&#039;ve started to look around at the new movements afoot, and I&#039;m certainly wiser about trying to push others to join me on the search.

It&#039;s still a struggle though. anytime I read a new idea or discover something hidden all I want to do is tell all my friends about it. Most don&#039;t want to hear it. Thank God I met my wife, whose always willing to listen even if she thinks I&#039;m a little nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree!</p>
<p>I first started the revolutionary swing in my personal theology a few years back at a deep-south bible college. turns out, thats not a good place to talk about the a non-fundamental view of things, let alone the kind of theologies I was discovering. (imagine engaging a room full of southern baptists about the &#8220;Death of the Theistic God&#8221;) It stung deeply that none of my friends would join me on my quest and that disillusionment left me cold to the faith for a few years. luckily I&#8217;ve started to look around at the new movements afoot, and I&#8217;m certainly wiser about trying to push others to join me on the search.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still a struggle though. anytime I read a new idea or discover something hidden all I want to do is tell all my friends about it. Most don&#8217;t want to hear it. Thank God I met my wife, whose always willing to listen even if she thinks I&#8217;m a little nuts.</p>
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