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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s Music Ain&#8217;t Got The Same Soul &#187; First Thoughts &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Today&#8217;s Music Ain&#8217;t Got The Same Soul &#187; First Thoughts &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] our metrosexual worship leaders, two-guitars-and-a-drum praise bands, and “Jesus is my boyfriend” songs, I assumed we evangelicals had a monopoly on messing up church music. But at the always intriguing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] our metrosexual worship leaders, two-guitars-and-a-drum praise bands, and “Jesus is my boyfriend” songs, I assumed we evangelicals had a monopoly on messing up church music. But at the always intriguing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes the modern church music is referred to as &quot;7-11 music&quot; (7 words in a sentence repeated for 11 choruses).  My brother, a very conservative Christian sort who has built his life around church involvement, calls modern &quot;praise songs&quot; &quot;Genesis 1 music&quot;  i.e. without form and void.

The reality is that much of what is passed off for modern praise music is written by non-Christians working for the major &quot;Christian music&quot; companies, most of which are now owned by large, secular corporations.  There is a reason why praise music has grown simplistic: Many of the people creating it do not know of Whom they write.

As for me, I stopped attending church nearly 20 years ago.  When I began to question the &quot;why?&quot; of church service &quot;procedures&quot; and to apparent need to sprinkle my speech with Christian buzzwords so the other believers would know me as part of their group, it was not well received.  In time, because I refused to conform to the superficial social customs of the modern church people began to question whether or not I was even a Christian.  

When it comes to my faith in Christ and the reading of Scripture I&#039;m about as traditional and fundamental as you can get.  But somehow that very conservatism seems to have led me in a different direction than others who, much like the Amish or the Catholics, seem to trust tradition as much as they trust Jesus.  

The journey continues and I continue to believe Jesus will nudge me in the right directions and I will continue to try to do what He appears to want me to do even if no one knows about it.  I no longer seek the approval of men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the modern church music is referred to as &#8220;7-11 music&#8221; (7 words in a sentence repeated for 11 choruses).  My brother, a very conservative Christian sort who has built his life around church involvement, calls modern &#8220;praise songs&#8221; &#8220;Genesis 1 music&#8221;  i.e. without form and void.</p>
<p>The reality is that much of what is passed off for modern praise music is written by non-Christians working for the major &#8220;Christian music&#8221; companies, most of which are now owned by large, secular corporations.  There is a reason why praise music has grown simplistic: Many of the people creating it do not know of Whom they write.</p>
<p>As for me, I stopped attending church nearly 20 years ago.  When I began to question the &#8220;why?&#8221; of church service &#8220;procedures&#8221; and to apparent need to sprinkle my speech with Christian buzzwords so the other believers would know me as part of their group, it was not well received.  In time, because I refused to conform to the superficial social customs of the modern church people began to question whether or not I was even a Christian.  </p>
<p>When it comes to my faith in Christ and the reading of Scripture I&#8217;m about as traditional and fundamental as you can get.  But somehow that very conservatism seems to have led me in a different direction than others who, much like the Amish or the Catholics, seem to trust tradition as much as they trust Jesus.  </p>
<p>The journey continues and I continue to believe Jesus will nudge me in the right directions and I will continue to try to do what He appears to want me to do even if no one knows about it.  I no longer seek the approval of men.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely right, Mike! The same thing applies to the sickly sweet hymns and spirituals that have been written since the late 1800&#039;s. &quot;In the Garden&quot; comes to mind: why in the world do we allow such sentimental junk in our church hymnals?

Years ago when I worked as the clubhouse manager (pastor) of a local religious establishment, I actually took a copy of our denominational hymnal and put a large &quot;X&quot; across the pages of inappropriate songs. That hymnal was then given to our volunteer choir director as a guide in choosing music for our corporate gatherings. I wish that a hidden camera could have recorded his reaction as he flipped through its pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, Mike! The same thing applies to the sickly sweet hymns and spirituals that have been written since the late 1800&#8217;s. &#8220;In the Garden&#8221; comes to mind: why in the world do we allow such sentimental junk in our church hymnals?</p>
<p>Years ago when I worked as the clubhouse manager (pastor) of a local religious establishment, I actually took a copy of our denominational hymnal and put a large &#8220;X&#8221; across the pages of inappropriate songs. That hymnal was then given to our volunteer choir director as a guide in choosing music for our corporate gatherings. I wish that a hidden camera could have recorded his reaction as he flipped through its pages.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many hymns that I am not able to sing truthfully as well.  &quot;I Love to Tell the Story&quot;, really?  If you loved something you would do it all the time, right?  But do we &quot;Tell the Story of Jesus and His Love&quot; so much that we can say we love to do it?

&quot;How Great Thou Art&quot;, What are we actually singing about in this song?  Is it just the writer&#039;s experience, or does this really happen to us when we look at creation that &quot;our soul sings&quot; out to God?  A lot hymns are not sung &quot;to God&quot; but are about the writer&#039;s experience with God, and then we just sing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many hymns that I am not able to sing truthfully as well.  &#8220;I Love to Tell the Story&#8221;, really?  If you loved something you would do it all the time, right?  But do we &#8220;Tell the Story of Jesus and His Love&#8221; so much that we can say we love to do it?</p>
<p>&#8220;How Great Thou Art&#8221;, What are we actually singing about in this song?  Is it just the writer&#8217;s experience, or does this really happen to us when we look at creation that &#8220;our soul sings&#8221; out to God?  A lot hymns are not sung &#8220;to God&#8221; but are about the writer&#8217;s experience with God, and then we just sing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Todd:&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t know why you are using the term &quot;emergent church&quot; in your comments, because no one here has mentioned being EC. You might as well accuse us of being goddess worshippers as being EC. Go ahead, use the search tool. You&#039;re the first one who has &lt;b&gt;ever&lt;/b&gt; mentioned it on this blog.

As for me, I have always remained clearly within the right-wing, conservative, evangelical movement within Christianity. This particular blog article arises from my passion for God-centered worship among believers, rather than the silly choruses that could just as easily be sung to one&#039;s girlfriend with very little change of wording. I&#039;m really sorry that my outrage strikes you as nothing more than &quot;irritation, aloofness, arrogance, and annoyance.&quot;

I cannot control the tone of those who comment here, as I maintain a fairly open policy for comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Todd:</b> I don&#8217;t know why you are using the term &#8220;emergent church&#8221; in your comments, because no one here has mentioned being EC. You might as well accuse us of being goddess worshippers as being EC. Go ahead, use the search tool. You&#8217;re the first one who has <b>ever</b> mentioned it on this blog.</p>
<p>As for me, I have always remained clearly within the right-wing, conservative, evangelical movement within Christianity. This particular blog article arises from my passion for God-centered worship among believers, rather than the silly choruses that could just as easily be sung to one&#8217;s girlfriend with very little change of wording. I&#8217;m really sorry that my outrage strikes you as nothing more than &#8220;irritation, aloofness, arrogance, and annoyance.&#8221;</p>
<p>I cannot control the tone of those who comment here, as I maintain a fairly open policy for comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I am going to visit all of these posts and find bitter, complaining type responses.  I wrote a longer comment about the emergent church in general on the &quot;week in the life&quot; blog.

Again, the author of the blog is on track with truths, but the attitude is very much one of irritation, aloofness, arrogance, and annoyance.

Question:  Which is a characteristic BEST known of the Emergent Church participant:

A)  Humility
B)  Patience
C)  Irritation
D)  Goodness

Answer:  &quot;C&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I am going to visit all of these posts and find bitter, complaining type responses.  I wrote a longer comment about the emergent church in general on the &#8220;week in the life&#8221; blog.</p>
<p>Again, the author of the blog is on track with truths, but the attitude is very much one of irritation, aloofness, arrogance, and annoyance.</p>
<p>Question:  Which is a characteristic BEST known of the Emergent Church participant:</p>
<p>A)  Humility<br />
B)  Patience<br />
C)  Irritation<br />
D)  Goodness</p>
<p>Answer:  &#8220;C&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer (Et Tu?)</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer (Et Tu?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my gosh, I could have written this word for word (well, if I were a good writer -- I guess what I should say is that I could have made the same point in a rambling way). :)

I used to be an atheist and when I would hear this type music it made me feel like God was kind of a light, happy-clappy concept. Now that I&#039;m a believer it just seems so disrespectful to praise God in this way. I know that that&#039;s not how the people mean it - I&#039;m sure the writers and those who sing it mean well - but, like you say, if it&#039;s hard to distinguish whether a song is about someone&#039;s boyfriend or our Lord and Savior, it might not be respectful.

Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gosh, I could have written this word for word (well, if I were a good writer &#8212; I guess what I should say is that I could have made the same point in a rambling way). <img src='http://churchless.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I used to be an atheist and when I would hear this type music it made me feel like God was kind of a light, happy-clappy concept. Now that I&#8217;m a believer it just seems so disrespectful to praise God in this way. I know that that&#8217;s not how the people mean it &#8211; I&#8217;m sure the writers and those who sing it mean well &#8211; but, like you say, if it&#8217;s hard to distinguish whether a song is about someone&#8217;s boyfriend or our Lord and Savior, it might not be respectful.</p>
<p>Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: kmillard</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmillard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a really great point, i have never even thought of this before.
i just came upon the song &quot;In Christ Alone&quot; here recently and thought it was really great. I just have to wonder, does most of the church even understand what it means?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a really great point, i have never even thought of this before.<br />
i just came upon the song &#8220;In Christ Alone&#8221; here recently and thought it was really great. I just have to wonder, does most of the church even understand what it means?</p>
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		<title>By: mr bob</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>mr bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I&#039;ve thought the same myself.  I&#039;m a recovering worship junkie.  I was hooked on the emo of it all, it helped keep my delusion alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I&#8217;ve thought the same myself.  I&#8217;m a recovering worship junkie.  I was hooked on the emo of it all, it helped keep my delusion alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim M</title>
		<link>http://churchless.net/2007/11/jesus-is-my-boyfriend-music/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya that really bugs me too.  &quot;I could sing of your love forever?&quot; HA!  Then why do I only sing of it one hour a week?

My wife and I also hate it when our P&amp;W songs say things like &quot;I&#039;m falling on my knees, offering all of me...&quot;

We&#039;re NOT falling on our knees, we are standing, maybe lifting our hands IF WE&#039;RE REALLY BRAVE!  It just makes a sometimes forced experience feel even more plastic to be singing about something im not doing.  I guess I could literally fall on my knees right there as the song played, but i think that would be even more plastic.

anyway, cool blog nice read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya that really bugs me too.  &#8220;I could sing of your love forever?&#8221; HA!  Then why do I only sing of it one hour a week?</p>
<p>My wife and I also hate it when our P&amp;W songs say things like &#8220;I&#8217;m falling on my knees, offering all of me&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re NOT falling on our knees, we are standing, maybe lifting our hands IF WE&#8217;RE REALLY BRAVE!  It just makes a sometimes forced experience feel even more plastic to be singing about something im not doing.  I guess I could literally fall on my knees right there as the song played, but i think that would be even more plastic.</p>
<p>anyway, cool blog nice read.</p>
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